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Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.26 08:54:00 -
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Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:Jane Trades wrote:However, do you realize what is going to happen to your income per hour. Are you really suggesting that they can actually comprehend the implications of this change? Don't be naive.
you say that as if it really matters; if mineral prices drop our isk/hour goes down but so does ship prices. the time it takes for a miner to buy some thing is largely unaffected unless the item they wish to procure requires materials that aren't obtained directly from mining.
when i purchased my first hulk trit was 3.4 isk/unit and the hulk was 130m, now trit is 6 isk/unit and a hulk is what, 250m? both prices have almost doubled so the time it takes to replace a ship then and now is almost identical.
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Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.26 09:08:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Hey, somebody good at EFT tell me how many of the new Velators with T1 fits we'd need to gank one of the new Hulks.
I sense a new, cheap, and hilarious option in the works. Is now a good time to admit that I've always loved you? EDIT: will 10 mill be enough to put T2 guns on those noobships?
t2 small auto cannons are less than 2m a piece, and you can only fit 2 on a rookie ship iirc, so if all the other small guns are a similar price then yes i'm sure you'll be able to fit a noobship with t2 guns for less than 10m
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Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.26 09:14:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Dave stark wrote:Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:Jane Trades wrote:However, do you realize what is going to happen to your income per hour. Are you really suggesting that they can actually comprehend the implications of this change? Don't be naive. you say that as if it really matters; if mineral prices drop our isk/hour goes down but so does ship prices. the time it takes for a miner to buy some thing is largely unaffected unless the item they wish to procure requires materials that aren't obtained directly from mining. when i purchased my first hulk trit was 3.4 isk/unit and the hulk was 130m, now trit is 6 isk/unit and a hulk is what, 250m? both prices have almost doubled so the time it takes to replace a ship then and now is almost identical. Yeah, because you are producing as it were, in "bits of stuff" so inflation raises both the prices you pay and prices you recieve. Missioners and those who have really high amounts of isk being injected into their wallet benefit from one and lose in the other.
of course, so really when mineral prices are low; nobody loses. people gaining isk from missioning can buy more stuff per mission so they gain, and as i pointed out miners don't really care one way or another so nobody loses out. i know goons are benefiting from high mineral prices in some way, that's no secret. however generally low prices are better for the majority i'd say.
less time spent doing the boring stuff, more time doing the fun stuff. at least, from my perspective.
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Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.27 00:26:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I don't see the new changes making much difference at all tbh. Most miners will still fit for max yield. 
i think you under estimate the changes.
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Bombardier Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.31 13:51:00 -
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Lilly Tiger wrote:Andoria Thara wrote:Lilly Tiger wrote:Andoria Thara wrote:I can see people who have an Orca/Hulk combo sticking with the Hulk, but the solo miners out there will switch to the Mack eventually.
Doing the math, you can easily find that sitting in a belt filling up the 35k m3 ore bay in a Mack with 3x MLU IIs will net a higher yield than a "One Cycle Fills-Ma-Ore-Bay" Hulk that has to dock and dump ore EVERY 3 minutes. Always mine with an orca, it is just more awesome  No doubt, but one of the main reasons why so many solo miners use the Hulk is because it has the biggest cargo hold out of all barges/exhumers, the other reason being highest yield. For a person who mines and dumps ore after their cargo gets full, the Mackinaw will be a godsend. Cargo rigs and cargo expanders, which reduce Armor and Hull HP will no longer be needed since they don't affect the ore bay. Give it about a month and I bet you 1 isk that you will see Mackinaws everywhere. I think i will "switch" to macks myself for my small team of miners when mining ice (a.k.a. keep using macks). its just so much more comfortable mining with a large hold, even when you have orca support. Means you can almost afk mine and at the same time have a good buffer tank.
personally i only have 2 accounts. one was going for an orca because i'd gladly lose the extra hulk yield for the mobile 200k ehp boost giving jetcan. however, 2 macks is easily going to win as it's a similar yield and less attention that i have to pay.
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Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.31 14:12:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:I wonder how many miners will still fit cargo mods...
none. bots on the other hand...
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